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Nitrous
The big change for the 2023 model year is the switch to 'post mount' rear brake. This will make sourcing brakes much easier for any of us shopping for new brakes as well as allow for older brakes to be re-cycled onto a Nitrous frame for those building a bike from a raw frameset.
Why was the Nitrous created? For fast cross country type rides, but with a fully modern geometry. There is no reason that a XC / fast trail bike designed to really be pedaled in anger should have a seat angle from 1992 and the head tube angle from a decade ago. Modern longer lower slacker works better than the old geometry just as well on light fast bikes as heavy enduro class bikes. Why a hard tail?? For many of us, there is a ton of riding that does not require a full suspension bike, and with trail sanitation happening daily, more and more trails are more and more fun on a hardtail! So I decided to make a fast, lively feeling mountain bike with stable, modern geometry that utilizes a beautiful steering, short stem and install a wide bar.
Voila, something far more capable feeling than any gravel bike when the going gets rough, and conversely far more nimble and responsive than a full suspension bike for powering along on the less demanding terrain that so many of us have easy access to.
The first part of designing the Nitrous was to make it inspiring to ride up the hill, almost urging you to new speed. With the low weight and balanced geometry, you will look at the steep sections of your favorite trails and know you can go further and faster than ever before. To create that snappy feel I pulled the chainstays in nice and short. As always there is a balance to frame geometry aspects and the first couple protos were even shorter, but I really felt the bike should be more stable. So the chainstay was stretched just a bit for some more stability on ungroomed trails. To maintain the awesome traction on the rear wheel, the seat tube angle was slackened a little.
For me, the 'longer’ part of the longer, lower, slacker ditty means that you can now install a crisp steering, super short stem and still be in a focused, powerful position while climbing. This ‘longer’ aspect to frame geometry also puts the front wheel further in front of your center of mass for more descending stability, and this is especially important when pushing the limits outside of the smoother flow trail networks.
Then there is 'lower', while not a super low bottom bracket, the Nitrous does have a very short (lower!) seat tube allowing longer dropper posts. Whether you want the big drop for getting way over the back wheel in the rough or looking bitchen in the parking lot, this new school frame dimension allow the seat to be 'lower' than ever!
Ok, now we need to talk about the ‘slacker’ part of the ditty. To be sure the Nitrous is slacker than most hardtails ever built. But it is by no means the slackest, the race to create the most extreme numbers is over. What is important is that the head angle is properly designed for the type of riding most will do on the Nitrous. Not so slack as to cause wheel flop on the tight technical turns and more importantly, it is not so slack that one cannot weight the front wheel on flatter turns.
The results of all the testing and geometry tweaking was to give the stability we expect out of a modern bike, without losing the liveliness we crave from a high performance hardtail.
So, is the Nitrous a fast XC bike or is it a stable ‘downcounty’ trail bike capable of zooming thru the woods ducking branches and carving up the spaces between the trees, or is it the perfect bike for Leadville type endurance races? I would say yes, it is.
| S | M | L | XL | |
| rec'd height | 5'1"-5'6'' | 5'6''-5'10'' | 5'10''-6'2'' | 6'2''-6'6'' |
| effective TT | 585 | 615 | 640 | 670 |
| seat tube | 370 | 400 | 430 | 470 |
| seat tube angle real | 75° | 74.5° | 74.5° | 74° |
| head tube | 85 | 100 | 125 | 155 |
| head-angle | 66° | 66° | 66° | 66° |
| bb drop | 62 | 62 | 60 | 60 |
| chainstay | 435 | 435 | 440 | 445 |
| reach | 420 | 443 | 462 | 478 |
| stack | 610 | 623 | 644 | 672 |
| wheelbase | 1140 | 1166 | 1200 | 1233 |
| standover@mid tube | 760 | 775 | 805 | 835 |
| Max post insert | 250 | 210 | 240 | 280 |
| { All specifications are subject to change. Measurements are given in ‘Millimeters’ and ‘Grams’ unless otherwise noted. } | ||||
Frame Specs
Frame Specs
| Seat Post Diameter | 30.9mm | ||
| Headset Dimensions | 44/56 semi integrated ZS | ||
| BB Shell | T47 Threaded | ||
| Fork Length | 120-140 | (Geo based on 120 fork) | |
| POST mount rear brake | 180 max | ||
| Max Tire Clearance | 29'' x 2.5'' or 27.5'' x 2.8'' | With good clearance | |
| Max Boost chainring size: | 36t oval 38t round |
Subtle shaping at the lower end of the Down Tube to the spread load over the BB shell and a dramatically flared Seat Tube both increase lateral rigidity for better feel when smashing the pedals. Along with the custom tapered chainstays, these subtle features set the Turner Ti ahead of the pack when it comes to ride tuning.
Bolts are stronger, stiffer, and simpler. Which is exactly why all our bikes come with them, it simply makes sense.
Every aspect of this Turner Ti frame is designed and engineered in the USA. From the gorgeous CNC tapered head tubes to the proprietary dropouts, we have designed every aspect of the frame.
As you probably figured out from the great price and long list of standard features, this frame is imported. We found this factory when we were producing the carbon Flux frames years ago. Soon after we started developing the first Ti Cyclosys with them. Our frames are not the first or the only Ti bicycle frames they build, as they are a factory long known for building world-class titanium mountain and road frames. What drew us to this factory was their ability to taper and create butted titanium tubing, and their massive CNC capabilities allowing us to create exactly what we wanted with out cookie cutter head tubes, bottom brackets and dropouts. Even our chainstay bridge is CNC out of billet to be super thin and not create a mud shelf!
‘T’ stands for threaded! Due to popular demand threads are back, and the new T47 offers bigger bearings & longer service life than older threaded standards. It will easily fit the larger and 30mm aluminum spindle creating a stiffer crank assembly, which is up to 18% lighter than the traditional steel spindle system.
Big change for 2023, really the ONLY BIG change, the switch to 'post mount' rear brake caliper type. MUCH easier to source mountain bike brakes with post mount calipers than almost exclusively OE flat mount combinations. The other BIG benefit is that a lightweight 4 piston trail bike caliper like SRAM G2 or Shimano XT/XTR can easily be sourced and bolted on.
Why offer a Guarantee?
Simply put, we know that you are going to love your new Turner Bike. But given the chance that it just doesn’t seem to fit right, we want to ensure that you will be happy in the long run.
Our customer service rocks and our bikes ride like no other, but in the end, we want it to fit you. If you cannot get comfortable on your new Turner Bike within 5 days of receiving it, give us a call and we will work out a solution, you may only need a different stem, or length of seat post. If that won't work, a different size frame can be swapped out.
